Saturday, February 24, 2007

Blessing in a Chart

Question posed by Dadhi

> Dear Satish,
> A blessing is for overall life and for each and every thing.
> Cheers !!!
> Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

Ash, with all respect, but in my view it is not so simple. I think that the "blessing" should be defined precisely.

With present definition, I can prove my statement with many charts. Let say, take for example chart of Bill Gates. It does not matter if one takes lagna of Gemini or Cancer (as there are two versions around). In both cases, relationship of his 1st and 9th lord does not show blessings.

I can not speak about his life with 100% certainty, but he does not look like to be without basic blessings of higher status in society. like good wife and children, good employment, very good riches, contacts with influential persons of the World, some fame, some skills, etc...

In some parts of the Word that would be blessings... .:)

Do you have a definition of "blessing" ?

And, is there a space to consider "blessings" for different houses ?

All the best,
Dadhi


Reply by Ash

Dear Dadhi,

Blessing, is something that is beyond money, wealth fame etc. For
example say u are teaching KAS to some student of yours or say u are
solving a chart in says years from now and for example, something is
difficult, then from now where and out of the blue say you might
remember some law or something that u had discussed might just come in
your mind, that is also blessing.

Say you are driving and there is an accident, maybe due to blessing
one might get saved and a big loss might get averted due to presence
of mind.

Another example is that say if there are problems in marriage, so due
to blessings, and if one listens to elders or it can be due to some
words of elders or guru or senior something might stike a person and
he or she might not break the marriage.

At work say one is facing a difficult problem or say some machine is
not working or something like that, then out of the blue one might
remember some lesson of engineering school or some experience might
come to mind with which you can solve such problems.

So the meaning of "Blessing" is as per vedic era.

Another way of seeing bill gates chart, who's chart we do not know, or
are not certain, if there is no blessing means he might have had to
work hard to achieve fame, he or she might not get to stay much with
parents, or might have to face so many legal battles or might not be
able to enjoy wealth etc.

However, do notice, now a days, as per media, bill gates is doing so
much charity work and he is using the "power of giving" to help fight
HIV, Cancer etc., so he might get the blessing of so many families who
are given a chance :-).

In any case, I hope u understand,

In short, those who have blessings, their life goes smooth. They
might not have money, or fame, but they will have happiness and
contentment.

Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca

Yes, also you can get blessings, by serving your parents, guru despite
you do not have blessing in chart. Doing it with bhakti and devotion.
That way also one can get blessing even if that is not in chart.

Friday, February 23, 2007

Finding Correct Marriage Period - With Solution

Question Posed

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: Sindhu Iyer"
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:59:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [astrologyandtimingevents] rahu-ket -- marriage quiz

Dear Ash,
Thanks for clearing my doubts. Just when everybody
is talking about effects of rahu with planets, and
"samdharmi-ship" with LOE and LOD, I have a chart of
one of my friends who got married recently, and in his
chart, moon is with rahu being in the sign of LOE ( I
won't disclose if it gave results or not).

For learning purposes, here are the details:
DOB : 24-01-76 (24th Jan, 1976)
Time : 02.45 AM
Place: Bhilai (Chhattisgadh)
Latitude: 21° 30' N Longitude: 81° 45' E

--Sindhu


Answer by Ash

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "ashsam73"
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:56:07 -0000
Subject: [astrologyandtimingevents] Re: rahu-ket -- marriage quiz

Dear Sindhu,

Here study the status of Venus. Venus is in Moola nakshtra and its
spoilt there. That is given in lesson. Sa is aspecting this Venus
also spoiling it further.

This venus is again in 2nd house with more bindus, so it will also
give some worries and also some blot on name of this person.

I don't know the accuracy of this birth data as u have not given any
events.

Now, Venus also has less power for 6th, 10th and 11th too showing some
changes in job and authority.

If Ra is more like Venus here and in House E so its eager to give but
it can't give happiness.

In this chart also I see some legal disputes. Lagna and 7th are in
6:8 and also from Moon and from Sun its 4:10.

After delay period is over Ma runs and Ma is 6th lord and weak for
7th. After that comes Rahu who is SD to Ve and status of venus is
spoilt. But still its eager so it will try no doubt but for some
reason or the other things will get spoilt and may not materialise.

If it gives marriage, there will be problems. So in 3rd sector
something might have come up something serious which might not have
materialised.

Next antra is that of Saturn and its delay causing planet. So in 1st
sector it will give marriage.

Me and Su 16-Sep 26-Sep
Me and Mo 27-Sep 09-Oct

These are strong periods for marriage.

What are the facts?

Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro. ca


Confirmation by Sindhu

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "Sindhu Iyer"
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 21:43:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [astrologyandtimingevents] Re: rahu-ket -- marriage quiz

Dear Ash,
Awesome analysis!

He did get married on Dec 13th 2006.And he did change
his job some time in Oct 2006. As far as I know, there
was no blot in his name or anything. His marriage
process was a rocky ride though.In the last sector, of
Rahu, he did met some girls but he could not make up
his mind and let those alliances go.

However, the reason I thought Rahu could give
marriage... was this.

Venus is LOE and also samdharmi to Saturn LOD. Does it
hold true that if Venus is in Moola Nakshatra, it
won't become samdharmi to Saturn? And since Rahu is
like Venus, shouldn't it give results in 1st sector (
samdharmi to delay causing planet)?What I still don't
understand is quality and timing are two different
things, so Venus got a chance shouldn't it have given
marriage..

Would you have picked Rahu, if Venus was just in Moola
Nakshatra but not aspected by Saturn? The reason why I
am asking this is because, I have a chart of another
friend who is not married yet:

His Venus antra just started, Venus ( but in moola
naksharta) is with ME (also in moola nakashatra) who
is LOE and SA is LOD and by placement is 5:9 with
Saturn. He has both Sa and Ju delay. I thought since
Ve is samdharmi to SA and is also 5:9 by placement,
results in first sector for him this year, maybe
not...

Sindhu

Thursday, February 22, 2007

Compilation of mails on - Rahu and Ketu

> Yes, I think Krushnaji had given a nice big write up on that in some
> archive post. I do remember that clearly.
>
> I think in solving a chart, he had told that blaming Rahu and Ketu for
> all bad things is not always correct and then he had gone ahead and
> solved a chart and in that he had written as per that chart on all the
> houses that Ra would represent.
>
> It will be nice if you or someone can dig up that post. I will try
> myself as well when I get some more time.




From the archives. Hope, it helps...

all the best,
Dadhi


---------------

RAHU


When Rahu is in the constelation of Ketu, it will also

represent planets denoted by Ketu. So it is three planets.

Rahu if situated in house A or D or E, it will reacts as the

lord of these houses.

Rahu/ Ketu represents two/ three planets, then the qualities

will be in proportion to the points of the planet, aquired in

Sarvastak chart in the house these are situated.

Suppose Rahu is situated in Sagi in say 3 degrees, then it

will represents Jupiter and Ketu, and Ketu in Gemini 3 degree will

represents Mercury and Mars. Thus it will represents Jupiter, Mercury

and Mars.

08.05.2002



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RAHU AND KETU with Planets




Rahu and ketu are imaginery points, These are intersection

points on the axis of Moon and sun. When any planet is very near to

these points, it gets effected. if the difference is less then 10

degrees, it is effected considerable. As the distance increases the

effect is reduced. More effect can be experienced perticularly on

Moon, Mars and Jupiter. Mercury is also effected to some extent.

Other planets are also effected but the effect is less. Sun does not

get effected or very negligible effect.

When these planets are with Ketu, in that case Rahu is just

180 degrees apart. again it effects.

When Rahu or Ketu are alone or situated in D or E, they

mostly come forward to give the result. In this case result is better.

More about this in the answer to Ash.

krushna

08.07.2002



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EFFECTS OF RAHU



Yes Rahu, is a important factor. When Moon, Mars, Jupiter are

associated with Rahu, changes the qualities of these planets. Moon

associated with Rahu, creates some mental problem, some type of

CXomplex. When Rahu and Moon difference is more then 15 degrees, The

person dreames impractical things. Always thinks he is doing some

what different, do not accept his fault. Rahu nearer the Moon

increases the problem. The effect of the sign and the constellation

in which they are associated is also important. Different types of

effect are seen in different signs and constellaion.

Regarding Mars and Jupiter we had a short discussion earlier.

krushna

06.05.2002



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Rahu & Ketu represents...



For Rahu or Ketu, When they represents two planets, some time

three, The result will be as per the points aquired by the planets

assuming those planets situated there. Here we take every thing by

the points of the planets.

Similar situation had come in some of the examples, and we

have selected Rahu sub, for giving the result, At that time one of

the planet was giving good points and other was not giving.

unfortunately no body raised this points. Up till now I take it

granted that this thing may be clear.

19.04.2002





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KETU AND MOON




When Moon is close to Ketu, it is just opposite to Rahu,

so effect on Moon is there. Moon is karak for Mental (Man). When such

combination is present person may wander in imaginery world. Some

times may have fits or similar things.

Jupiter with Rahu, makes the Chandal yog ( Who kills more

human beings)or may be the reson for killing more persons. If Moon is

also with Rahu ( as in the case of Hitler,Hitler's Advisor Jokim fon

rebantroy,) it makes the man mad after his aim.

Very interesting thing to note: All the Sants who have got

acquainted with God may have Moon with Rahu/Ketu.

The effect depends on the sign in which these planets are

situated. If such Rahu is situated in the house of Sixth lord, even

if in other sign of the sixth lord, It makes the person very cruel.

If Rahu is situated in the sign/ constellation of natural malefics,

it gives the result accordingly. The effect is considered as per the

points of respective planets.

08.07.2002



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OBSESSIONS - RAHU




To have any unreasonably persistent idea in mind is the

result of Moon afflicted by Rahu/Ketu. More points in 3rd house then

6th, 10 and 11, also makes the person being obessed. If the points in

10 are less, it enhances the effect.

If Moon is in the sign of 10th house ( if 10th lord is having

dual lord ship, then also in other sign of the 10th lord) and

afflicted by Rahu, by sight, the person is obsessed with work. He can

not enjoy any where else then his work table.

If Moon is in the lord of 6th house and afflicted by Rahu/

Ketu, person is obsessed with security.

If Moon afflicted in the sign of 12th lord, he have very

different concept about Sex.

The points in 1st house are very less, person may have

inferioty complex. If Moon in the sign of first lord or in first

house, and afflicted by Rahu, he is doing some thing to attract the

attaintions.

If any person have zero point in 4th house due to Mars, again

he will be obsessed with the work.

If all the planets gives good strength ( resonably good) for

mostly all the houses, All the planets are with less points ( below 4

points in the place they are situated, the person is well belanced.

krushna

25.04.2002



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RAHU AND KETU...results in houses D and E



Rahu and Ketu gives the result for the sign/ constilation

they are situated.

Again if they are situated in house D or E, means they are

situated in the sign of the lord of D or E. So they can give the

result of the house B.

For Example suppose Rahu is situated in say 4th house. it

is house D for 7th house. If we are considering for marriage, then

Rahu can give the result. Suppose in fourth house Arises sign is

there. and Rahu is in say 15 degrees, so in the constellation of

Venus. So this Rahu will give the result for Mars and Venus. If we

are searching for the result of such house where Mars or Venus is

having it's sight on the house A,Bor C, then Such Rahu will give the

result for those houses also.

Suppose Mars is situated in 7th house with more points. 7th

house is house D for 10th house. Now this mars is having its sight on

10th house and 2nd house B and C. in such case Rahu can give the

favourable result for 10th houase. Here Venus is lord og 3rd house,

house E, for 10th house, So again Rahu is representing Mars and

Venus, so more better result can be experienced.

Now again Venus is lord of 10th house, which is house D for

1st house, So Rahu can give good result for 1st house also.

Again Mars is lord of 9th house, Which is house D for 12

house, So better result for 12 can be experienced for 12th also.

Same thing for 4th house and 6th house.

So Rahu situated in 4th house in Scorpio, can give better result for

1st, 4th, 6th,7th, 10th, 11th, and 12th house.

Krushna

07.08.2002

Saturday, February 17, 2007

Quiz - 2/16/07-Answer - Correct Prediction with Solution

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "SPK"
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:38:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [astrologyandtimingevents] Quiz - 2/16/07-Answer

Hello,

Thanks for participating in the quiz. The native got
married Feb 4, 2007. Ash got it right,
congratulations. I had predicted for the native 6
months back that he would have a good chance of
marriage bet Nov,2006 and March 2007. That time I was
not aware of KAS.

Ash, can you please explain Guru delay. This chart is
similar to the one we looked at where saturn aspects
House A,B, or C so can not give result on his own. But
he gives it being samadharmi to Guru.

Satish


To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "ashsam73" <ashsam73@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:11:59 -0000
Subject: [astrologyandtimingevents] Re: Quiz - 2/16/07

Dear Satish,

You just wrote u gave this puzzle 6 months back but its ok.

The reason I had asked was that if the birth time was earlier then
there is blessing i.e. with Aries navamsa, means if the lagna is in
the first 3deg20 of sagittarius. So that might change the whole
complexion of the chart.

Other than that, with the time given, there is full delay of Saturn,
Ju is with saturn and Jupiter is in nakshtra of Pushya ruled by Sa so
it can't moderate the delay of Saturn.

Jupiter is aspecting 2nd house and also 7th lord Mercury so here Ju is
also delay causing planet.

Saturn is also causing full delay, as Sa is aspecting House C, itself
is LoA and Sa conjoins LoC in navamsa so full delay.

So delay of Saturn gets over say around 1st september 2004 and then
there is in addition delay due to Jupiter so 1 or 2 years, means leave
Ju antra. So Ju antra cant give.

Next is Sa antra, it has less power, now, in this case Ve to sun
distance is 43 deg and Sa is aspecting Venus and a luminiary at the
same time lagna points are 37.

So if there is unhappy marriage, so it will happen in Saturn antra.
Saturn is SD to Delay causing planet which is LoD i.e Jupiter so it
will give in 1st sector.

Now, due to the status of venus this marriage can happen in lowest
points in Saturn antra and in 1st sector.

Sector 1 2006-Jul-19 - 2007-Jul-01


Powerful transit of sun will be over 10th to 16th October 2006, before
that other probable dates are

Su and Ke 16-Aug 29-Aug
Su and Su 13-Sep 15-Sep
Me and Su 16-Sep 26-Sep
Me and Ma 10-Oct 16-Oct

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

Now, if there is blessing means say Time is 1:30 AM, then there is
blessing in this chart and everything changes.

So despite there is delay of Sa and Ju there is blessing so that
might nullify the delay or in the least reduce it.

In that case, after 21 years, then if you say that person is enginner
then after 18 it takes 4 year or so ... so 22 years, and if its a male
chart and if in India then it might be a little early to marry.

So after that, strong results will come in Ju antra. Ju is LoD so its
eager and its delay causing as well. However its also with Saturn and
in nakshtra of Saturn. So here it might be in 3rd sector or 2nd
sector in Ju.

Sector 2 2004-Dec-12 - 2005-Sep-30
Sector 3 2005-Sep-30 - 2006-Jul-19

In any case its a good exercise.

Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

--- In astrologyandtiminge vents@yahoogroup s.com,

SPK wrote:

Hello,

Oops,While replying to Ash's email I have given away
the answer, so disreard this as a quiz. You may still
want to attempt it to hone your skills assuming you do
not know the answer.

Satish



--- SPK wrote:

Dear Ash,

I will try and find out. This is a chart I had given
prediction on one of the internet groups 6 months
back. As such I do not know the person personally. I
will see what I can do. As far as know the parents
are
alive and he is an engineer living abroad.

Satish



ashsam73 . wrote:

Dear Satish,
Please also give some more data like line of work,
degree of education
and any other info that you think will help in
making sure that the
birth time is correct. Things like death of
parents
(if any) or some
other major event such as accident etc will also
help firm up the
lagna or navamsaa or other things if need be.
Thanks,
Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca


--- In astrologyandtiminge vents@yahoogroup s.com,
SPK > wrote:

Hello,

Here is another one. Time marriage for the
individual

Male
Date Of Birth: March 4th,1979
Time: 1:47 A.M.
80E17, 13 N 5, India (IST -5:30)

Satish

Antar Dasha - Activation of Houses for Timing

Dear Anup,

LoD and LoE are eager to furnish timing. Apart from Leo and Cancer or say its lords Sun and Moon who rule 1 house each, all others rule 2 houses.

Let me take concrete example. Say Gemini is lagna, and Jupiter antra is on and Jupiter is located in 4th house of the chart in virgo with 5 bindus.

So break it up.....

1) Ju rules 10th house and 7th house
2) Ju is placed in 4th house of the chart with 4 bindus.


Now break up point 1 further in a logical fashion.

a) Ju rules 10th house
b) Ju rules 7th house

Now break up point a and b further.

i) Since Ju rules 10th house it, during its dasha it will become eager to furnish timing for 4th and 8th from 10th house so that means 1st and 5th house.

ii) Since Ju rules 7th house it will be eager to trigger events for 4th and 8th house from 7th house so that is 10th and 2nd house which means for 10th house Ju becomes LoD and for 2nd house Ju becomes LoE.

Now take point 2 and break it up.

a) Ju is placed in 4th house with 5 bindus i.e. more than 4

Break up point a further.

i) Since planets with more than 4 bindus, it will also become eager to furnish timing for the 4th and 8th house from where its placed. So by virtue of being placed in 4th house, it will become eager to give result for 7th house and 11th house means 4th from 4th and 8th from 4th.

In Summary : For Gemini lagna and with a scenario where Ju is placed in 4th house with more than four bindus it will trigger or say become eager to furnish timing of the following houses.

1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 10th and 11th houses.

I hope this phenomenon is clear.

Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca
For Lessons and KAS program: http://krushna.sageasita.com




--- In astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com, x y wrote:
>
> Dear members,
Given that LOD and LOE determine the respective result for the area to be affected (house B) in given ANTRA?

As per lesson 4 (meaning of the houses) it is stated dat in the sub period of the lord of any house, or the planets situated in it with more than 4 points, the result will be linked to the 4th and 8th house matters, from the house under consideration.

Does this mean that we get result of 3 houses simulteniously, from the LOD and LOE of one house ?

How i can ascertain any house result from a running ANTRA if so?

Will sm1 elaborate this in simple words?
Regards
Anup

Wednesday, February 14, 2007

Correct Prediction on a difficult chart

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "Dadhi"
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:48:07 +0100
Subject: Re: [astrologyandtimingevents] Re: New quiz - ANSWER - Solving the chart


> What are the facts?

Dear Ash,

Thank you for your valuable time. You are mostly right.
He is not married, travels abroad, lives abroad etc.
He is interested to get married, but not so much strenght of will (or desire) to do it.
A kind of subconciouss fear as far as I can see.
Everthing you said about physique and personality is true.

> Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial
> harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will
> be for name sake only.

Thanks for that observation.

all the best,
Dadhi

------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> Dear Dadhi,
> Good to hear from you. Yes, this is a difficult chart. This person
> himself does not seem to be interested in maritial life. He also
> might have traveled aborad, and in the least he might have lived away
> from his father.
>
> This chart is special, as there is also a blessing in this chart
> however it is making this blessing with 6th lord who is Jupiter.
>
> Overall all points are less in this chart for 7th house. On top of
> that Jupiter is the 6th lord and its in 6th house and its malefically
> aspecting 2nd house and 7th lord, so this thing might depart the
> native from his spouse too. Again 7th lord is in 6th house and its
> with 6th lord. Venus is SD to Saturn. Me, who is LoE is SD to Ju who
> is 6th lord so again its disturbing that, Difference between lagna and
> 7th is also very high, 34 / 19 so difference of 15 points means about
> 45% approximately. Ve is also in jayeshta nakshtra.
>
> So, as per what I can judge is that this person is not interested in
> maritial relation at all. If he is married, then he might also live
> away from his wife or this marriage will be only in the name sake for
> society. This person also might be changing jobs often but he will
> have good name and good personality so he can impress people.
>
> He also might have a good built in physique and impressive personality.
>
> However, considering all these facts, and if blessing works he will
> marry and marriage it will be around 22 year to 23 year of age or in
> moon antra in Sun MD.
>
> Otherwise, if blessings do not work, then will not marry. Maritial
> harmony is not there in this chart. So if there is marriage it will
> be for name sake only.

To: astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com
From: "ashsam73"
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:12:09 -0000
Subject: [astrologyandtimingevents] Re: New quiz - ANSWER - Solving the chart
> > And that brings me to to the question that Satish posed and Ramesh was
> > confused on how come so many chaps are taking Moderation of Delay
.....
> >
> > And so Krushnaji asked me... how come I got moderation of Delay......
> > So I told him... Sir... Ju is with Sa.......... .... (and then I can
> > hear him going for a small walk... to calm him self lol).....
>
>
> Dear Ash and members,
>
> I read this nice conversation you had with Krushnaji. Thank you for
sharing it.
>
> Regarding Ju and Sa delays and no-delays I have in front of me an
interesting chart.
> I must confess that it is not an easy chart (at least for me) to
analyse regarding marriage. If any of you would like to try, here it is:
>
> person is male; 2nd November 1960; 21:52; +1 CET; 18E24 and 45N18.
>
> Please try to find if this person is married. If yes, when he
married? If not, why not.
>
> all the best, and congratulation to all of you who attemted and
solve last quiz....
> Dadhi
>
>

Tuesday, February 13, 2007

Relationship - Venus - Saturn & Mercury - Saturn

Dear Satish,

Good question.

We cannot say that Sa and Me are Natural Samdharmi (NSD), however they share a special
relationship. Firstly, lets be clear why we say Sa and Ve are NSD.

Saturn and Venus

Taurus and Aquarius are in 4:10 (Kendras) AND Libra and Aquarius are in 5:9 (Trines).

Taurus and Capricorn are in 5:9 (Trines) AND Libra and Capricorn are in 4:10 (Kendras)

So Ve and Sa are considered NSD for each other. Also Ve and Sa are Yogakarak for each other's sign.

Exception is that when Ve and Sa go into 1:7 means they have enimity and they will cease to act as NSD.

So that way, this is considered in KAS.

So for TIMING OF EVENT, if Venus is unable and Sa's antra comes and Ve is powerful for the event, then Sa can step in for it as NSD.

Similarly, if for some reason Sa was unable to give result, and Ve's antra came so Ve will step in for Saturn and will furnish the timing


Saturn and Mercury

Now coming to relationship between Saturn and Mercury and seeing this from KAS view point.

Here they do share a special relationship however its not like Sa and Ve.

From Gemini, Capricorn is 8th house from it. In KAS terminology it's Karak sthan. So if Status of Saturn is good, it means it will give better result or quality of result for Gemini.

This u are already using unknowingly in KAS.

Similarly, Virgo is 8th house from Aquarius, so here Mercury is acting like LoA or Karak for Aquarius. So here better the status of Mercury the better will be the result (quality) of Aquarius.

So Sa and Me are karak sthan for each other's houses so they share a relationship that way.

Saturn denotes brilliance and Mercury denotes intellegence.

However, Saturn can't replace Mercury for timing of event just as Ve can replace Saturn or Saturn can replace Venus.

So Me and Sa do share a relationship albiet its different form Ve and Sa.


Cheers !!!
Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca



--- In astrologyandtimingevents@yahoogroups.com, SPK
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As Ash has pointed out, Mercury is not samadharmi to
> saturn due to its occupying the nakshatra of saturn.
>
> A long time ago, I had a chance to meet Naredra Desai,
> he had mentioned that shani and budh have a similar
> special relationship like shani and shukra. Shani
> shukra is mutual i.e. they are best buddies. Shani and
> budh is a bit different. Mythologically Budh is
> younger brother of shani and shani is fond of budh. He
> wants to do the work but wants budh to get the credit.
> So he gives in the dhasha of budh which follows his
> own dasha. Budh does not give through shani but shani
> gives through budh. This is not in KAS lessons. But I
> would like Ash or Krushna to comment on this aspect of
> relationship between Shani and Budh.
>
> Thanks
>
> Satish